From sage-members-owner Thu Jan 12 11:16:07 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA05110; Thu, 12 Jan 95 11:16:07 PST Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA05103; Thu, 12 Jan 95 11:16:05 PST Received: from gaea.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA26996 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 12 Jan 1995 11:15:52 -0800 Received: from phakt.synopsys.com by gaea.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA06980 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 12 Jan 1995 11:15:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199501121915.AA06980@gaea.synopsys.com> To: sage-members@usenix.ORG, sage-announce@usenix.ORG Cc: sage-board@usenix.ORG Subject: Summary of actions taken at SAGE Board of Directors meetings - 1994 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 11:15:45 -0800 From: ple@Synopsys.COM Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk For the benefit of the SAGE membership, here is a brief summary of the actions taken by the SAGE board of directors at their meetings and teleconferences in 1994. If you have questions for the board about these or other issues, feel free to contact us at sage-board@usenix.org. Paul Evans, SAGE Secretary ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Summary of the Actions Taken at the SAGE Board of Directors Meetings - 1994 January 20, 1994 meeting It was decided that the sage mailing list would be restricted to members only and that the sage-announce mailing list would be available to all subscribers. The Board decided to solicit proposals for appointing a SAGE standards representative to attend meetings on SAGE's behalf. March 1994 The working groups sage-conf, sage-robbies, and sage-pr were disbanded, and sage-outreach and sage-pt were made into discussion groups. It was decided to develop a sage-jobs-offered mailing list and that Pat Wilson would be reponsible for monitoring the postings. April 1994 It was suggested that Shoshana Abrass be asked to chair head the sage-ethics working group. It was decided to add a member services page to the SAGE WWW server allowing members to advertise products and services. Ron Hall became the new chair to the sage-edu working group. June. 1994 It was decided that nominating committee members are not be eligible to run for office for the SAGE board. It was decided that SAGE would again co-sponsor the SANS Conference in cooperation with Fed UNIX to be held in Washington DC in Spring 1995. The subcommittee's recommendation to accept from Darmohray and Evans to co-chair LISA '95 was accepted. It was decided that a copy of each new SAGE publication would be sent to all current members at the time of its release. It was decided that future Open Board meetings beginning with New Orleans would be conducted as BoFs. It was decided that Larry Wall would be the recipient of the 1994 SAGE Outstanding Achievement Award. July 1994 Brent Chapman had indicated that due to time constraints, he would have to step down as the SAGE postmaster. The postition has since been filled by Scott Seebass, who is the system administrator for the Association's executive office. September 1994 It was decided to investigate the possibility of developing an on-line resource center which would consist of a forum for discussion as well as tools and techniques for system administrators. The SAGE locals groups document was accepted by the Board. It was decided to investigate translating the SAGE Jobs for System Administrators booklet into French and Swedish Greg Rose would replace Tom Christiansen as the USENIX board liaison to SAGE. The SAGE/USENIX track at UniForum was slated for a Sunday/Monday time slot, offering three to six tutorials. It was decided that future LISA program committee's would meet to delirate on selection of papers at the Association's offices in May. October 1994 Sage-security was changed into a discussion group. From sage-members-owner Wed Mar 8 22:28:13 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA18407; Wed, 8 Mar 95 22:28:13 PST Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA18122; Wed, 8 Mar 95 22:00:45 PST Received: from gaea.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA21685 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:59:52 -0800 Received: from intrepid.synopsys.com by gaea.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA21859 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 8 Mar 1995 21:59:51 -0800 Message-Id: <199503090559.AA21859@gaea.synopsys.com> To: sage-announce@usenix.ORG, sage-members@usenix.ORG, baylisa@baylisa.org, bblisa@cs.umb.edu, groupname@plts.org, ncsa-announce@cs.unc.edu, nysa@esm.com Subject: LISA 9 Call for Participation Date: Wed, 08 Mar 95 21:59:49 -0800 From: ple@Synopsys.COM Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk Pre-LISA '95 Workshop: Advanced Topics in System Administration September 19, 1995 Monterey, CA A one-day, pre-LISA conference workshop, to be held Tuesday, September 19, 1995, will focus on a discussion of the latest-breaking technical issues in the systems administration arena as introduced by those in attendance. Attendance is limited and based on acceptance of a position paper. Acceptance notices to all participants will be issued by August 7, 1994. HOW TO SUBMIT: Potential workshop attendees are invited to submit a proposal of at most 3 pages (ASCII) via electronic mail to jes@sgi.com no later than August 1. These proposals should briefly contain a topic for discussion, a description of the subject, an explanation of what makes this topic controversial or interesting, and a personal position. (More substantative reports of completed works should instead be submitted as papers to the technical sessions.) A representative subset of positions will be discussed in an open forum. The workshop is being organized by John Schimmel of Silicon Graphics. Mail these proposals to jes@sgi.com by August 1. Chosen participants will be notified by August 14. Participants must be pre-registered for the LISA conference. No additional fee will be charged to attend this workshop, and lunch will be provided. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ANNOUNCEMENT & CALL FOR PARTICIPATION 9th USENIX SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATION CONFERENCE (LISA '95) September 18-22, 1995 Monterey Conference Center, Monterey, California Co-sponsored by USENIX, the Advanced Computing Systems Professional and Technical Association, and SAGE, the System Administrators Guild IMPORTANT DATES Refereed paper submissions: Extended abstracts due: May 1, 1995 Notification to authors: June 5, 1995 Final papers due: August 1, 1995 Registration materials available: July, 1995 The USENIX Systems Administration (LISA) Conference is widely recognized as the leading technical conference for system administrators. Historically, LISA stood for "Large Installation Systems Administration," back in the days when having a large installation meant having over 100 users, over 100 systems, or over one gigabyte of disk storage. Today, the scope of the LISA conference includes topics of interest to system administrators from sites of all sizes and kinds. What the conference attendees have in common is an interest in solving problems that cannot be dealt with simply by scaling up well-understood solutions appropriate to a single machine or a small number of workstations on a LAN. The theme for this year's conference is "New Challenges," which includes such emerging issues as integration of non-UNIX and proprietary systems and networking technologies, distributed information services, network voice and video teleconferencing, and managing very complex networks. We are particularly interested in technical papers that reflect hands-on experience, describe fully implemented and freely distributable solutions, and advance the state of the art of system administration as an engineering discipline. TUTORIAL PROGRAM Monday and Tuesday, September 18-19, 1995 The two-day tutorial program at the conference offers up to five tracks of full- and half-day tutorials. Tutorials offer expert instruction in areas of interest to system administrators of all levels, from novice through senior. Topics are expected to include networking, advanced system administration tools, Solaris and BSD administration, Perl programming, firewalls, NIS, DNS, Sendmail, and more. To provide the best possible tutorial offerings, USENIX continually solicits proposals for new tutorials. If you are interested in presenting a tutorial at this or other USENIX conferences, please contact the tutorial coordinator: Daniel V. Klein +1 412 421 0285 FAX: +1 412 421 2332 E-mail: dvk@usenix.org TECHNICAL SESSIONS Wednesday through Friday, September 20-22, 1995 The three days of technical sessions consist of two parallel tracks. The first track is dedicated to presentations of refereed technical papers. The second track is intended to accommodate invited talks, panels and Works-in-Progress (WIP) sessions. CONFERENCE TOPICS Papers addressing the following topics are particularly timely; papers addressing other technical areas of general interest are equally welcome. - Your plans for the year 2000 - Deployment of new networking technologies - Coping with the commercialization of the Internet - Support models in use at your site - Dealing with differences in UNIX implementations -- migration and interoperability among BSD, SVR4, OSF and others - Integration of UNIX-based with non-UNIX-based and proprietary systems and networking technologies (Mac, NT and DOS PCs) - Application of emerging technologies (Mbone, Mosaic) to system administration - Administration and security of distributed information services (WAIS, gopher, WWW) and network voice and video teleconferencing (Mbone) - Experience supporting mobile and location-independent computing - Experience with large (1000+ machine) networks, especially networks of SVR4-based systems - Real-world experience with implementations of proposed system administration standards - Unusual applications of commercial system administration software packages - Application of operational planning techniques to system administration including measurements and metrics, continuous process improvement, automation, and increasing productivity - File migration, archival storage and backup systems in extremely large environments - Innovative tools and techniques that have worked for you - Managing high-demand and high-availability environments - Migrating to new hardware and software technologies - Administration of remote sites that have no technical experts - Supporting MIS organizations on UNIX - Real-world experiences with emerging procedural/ethical issues-- e.g., developing site policies, tracking abusers, and implementing solutions to security problems - Networking non-traditional sites (libraries, museums, K-12) REFEREED PAPER SUBMISSIONS An extended abstract is required for the paper selection process. Full papers are not acceptable at this stage; if you send a full paper, you must also include an extended abstract. "Extended" means 2-5 pages. Include references to establish that you are familiar with related work, and, where possible, provide detailed performance data to establish that you have a working implementation or measurement tool. Submissions will be judged on the quality of the written submission, and whether or not the work advances the state of the art of system administration. For more detailed author instructions and a sample extended abstract, send email to lisa9authors@usenix.org. or call USENIX at +1 510 528 8649. Note that the USENIX organization, like most conferences and journals, requires that papers not be submitted simultaneously to more than one conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by "non-disclosure agreement" forms are not acceptable and will be returned unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidence prior to publication in the conference proceedings, both as a matter of policy and as protected by the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976. Authors of an accepted paper must provide a final paper for publication in the conference proceedings. At least one author of each accepted paper presents the paper at the conference. Final papers are limited to 20 pages, including diagrams, figures and appendixes, and must be in troff, ASCII, or LaTeX format. We will supply you with instructions. Papers should include a brief description of the site, where appropriate. Conference proceedings, containing all refereed papers and materials from the invited talks, will be distributed to attendees and will also be available from the USENIX following the conference. WHERE TO SEND SUBMISSIONS Please submit extended abstracts for the refereed paper track by two of the following methods: % E-mail to: lisa9papers@usenix.org % FAX to: +1 510 548 5738 % Mail to: LISA 9 Conference USENIX Association 2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215, Berkeley, CA USA 94710 To discuss potential submissions, and for inquiries regarding the content of the conference program, contact the program co-chairs at lisa9chair@usenix.org or at: Tina M. Darmohray Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory PO Box 808 L-510 Livermore, CA USA 94550 +1 510 423 5999 FAX: +1 510 422 7869 E-mail: tmd@usenix.org Paul Evans Synopsys, Inc. 700 East Middlefield Road Mountain View, CA USA 94043 +1 415 694 1855 FAX: +1 415 965 8637 E-mail: ple@usenix.org INVITED TALK TRACK If you have a topic of general interest to system administrators, but that is not suited for a traditional technical paper submission, please submit a proposal for a second track presentation to the invited talk (IT) coordinators at or to: Laura de Leon, Hewlett-Packard +1 415 857 5605 FAX: +1 415 857 5686 E-mail: deleon@hpl.hp.com Peg Schafer, BBN +1 617 873-2626 FAX: +1 617 873 4265 E-mail: peg@bbn.com PROGRAM COMMITTEE Program Co-chair: Tina Darmohray, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Program Co-chair: Paul Evans, Synopsys, Inc. Paul Anderson, University of Edinburgh Kim Carney, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Rob Kolstad, Berkeley Software Design, Inc. Bryan McDonald, SRI International Marcus Ranum, Trusted Information Systems, Inc. John Schimmel, Silicon Graphics, Inc. VENDOR DISPLAY Wednesday, September 20, 1995 Well-informed vendor representatives will demonstrate products and services at the informal table-top display. If your company would like to participate, please contact: Zanna Knight +1 510 528 8649 FAX: +1 510 548 5738 E-mail: display@usenix.org BIRDS-OF-A-FEATHER SESSIONS Birds-of-a-Feather sessions (BoFs) are very informal gatherings of attendees interested in a particular topic. BoFs are held Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday evenings of the conference. BoFs may be scheduled in advance by telephoning the USENIX Conference Office at +1 714 588 8649 or via e-mail to conference@usenix.org. They may also be scheduled at the conference. FOR REGISTRATION INFORMATION All details of the conference program, conference registration fees and forms, and hotel discount and reservation information will be available in July, 1995. If you wish to receive registration materials, please contact: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert Street, Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 +1 714 588 8649 FAX: +1 714 588 9706 E-mail: conference@usenix.org For more information about USENIX and its events, access the USENIX Resource Center on the World Wide Web. The URL is http://www.usenix.org. OR send email to our mailserver at info@usenix.org. Your message should contain the line: send catalog. A catalog will be returned to you. From sage-members-owner Wed Mar 22 15:07:33 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA13325; Wed, 22 Mar 95 15:07:33 PST Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA13057; Wed, 22 Mar 95 14:34:51 PST Received: from gaea.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA22476 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 22 Mar 1995 14:34:21 -0800 Received: from intrepid.synopsys.com by gaea.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA07570 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 22 Mar 1995 14:34:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199503222234.AA07570@gaea.synopsys.com> To: baylisa@baylisa.org, bblisa-announce@cs.umb.edu, groupname@plts.org, ncsa-announce@cs.unc.edu, nysa@esm.com, dc-sage@mjr.com, sage-announce@usenix.ORG, sage-members@usenix.ORG Subject: LISA 95 Announcement and Call for Participation Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 14:34:13 -0800 From: ple@Synopsys.COM Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk ANNOUNCEMENT & CALL FOR PARTICIPATION 9th USENIX SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATION CONFERENCE (LISA '95) September 18-22, 1995 Monterey Conference Center, Monterey, California Co-sponsored by USENIX, the Advanced Computing Systems Professional and Technical Association, and SAGE, the System Administrators Guild IMPORTANT DATES Refereed Paper Submissions: Extended abstracts due: May 1, 1995 Notification to authors: June 5, 1995 Final papers due: August 1, 1995 Advanced Topics in System Administration Workshop: Proposals Due: August 1, 1995 Notification to authors: August 14, 1995 Registration materials available: July, 1995 The USENIX Systems Administration (LISA) Conference is widely recognized as the leading technical conference for system administrators. Historically, LISA stood for "Large Installation Systems Administration," back in the days when having a large installation meant having over 100 users, over 100 systems, or over one gigabyte of disk storage. Today, the scope of the LISA conference includes topics of interest to system administrators from sites of all sizes and kinds. What the conference attendees have in common is an interest in solving problems that cannot be dealt with simply by scaling up well-understood solutions appropriate to a single machine or a small number of workstations on a LAN. The theme for this year's conference is "New Challenges," which includes such emerging issues as integration of non-UNIX and proprietary systems and networking technologies, distributed information services, network voice and video teleconferencing, and managing very complex networks. We are particularly interested in technical papers that reflect hands-on experience, describe fully implemented and freely distributable solutions, and advance the state of the art of system administration as an engineering discipline. WORKSHOP: ADVANCED TOPICS IN SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION Monday, September 18, 1995 A one-day, pre-LISA conference workshop, to be held Tuesday, September 19, 1995, will focus on a discussion of the latest-breaking technical issues in the systems administration arena as introduced by those in attendance. Attendance is limited and based on acceptance of a position paper. Acceptance notices to all participants will be issued by August 14, 1995. HOW TO SUBMIT: Potential workshop attendees are invited to submit a proposal of at most 3 pages (ASCII) via electronic mail to jes@sgi.com no later than August 1. These proposals should briefly contain a topic for discussion, a description of the subject, an explanation of what makes this topic controversial or interesting, and a personal position. (More substantive reports of completed works should instead be submitted as papers to the technical sessions.) A representative subset of positions will be discussed in an open forum. The workshop is being organized by John Schimmel of Silicon Graphics. Mail these proposals to jes@sgi.com by August 1. Chosen participants will be notified by August 14. Participants must be pre-registered for the LISA conference. No additional fee will be charged to attend this workshop, and lunch will be provided. TUTORIAL PROGRAM Monday and Tuesday, September 18-19, 1995 The two-day tutorial program at the conference offers up to five tracks of full- and half-day tutorials. Tutorials offer expert instruction in areas of interest to system administrators of all levels, from novice through senior. Topics are expected to include networking, advanced system administration tools, Solaris and BSD administration, Perl programming, firewalls, NIS, DNS, Sendmail, and more. To provide the best possible tutorial offerings, USENIX continually solicits proposals for new tutorials. If you are interested in presenting a tutorial at this or other USENIX conferences, please contact the tutorial coordinator: Daniel V. Klein +1 (412) 421-0285 FAX: +1 (412) 421-2332 E-mail: dvk@usenix.org TECHNICAL SESSIONS Wednesday through Friday, September 20-22, 1995 The three days of technical sessions consist of two parallel tracks. The first track is dedicated to presentations of refereed technical papers. The second track is intended to accommodate invited talks, panels and Works-in-Progress (WIP) sessions. CONFERENCE TOPICS Papers addressing the following topics are particularly timely; papers addressing other technical areas of general interest are equally welcome. - Your plans for the year 2000 - Deployment of new networking technologies - Coping with the commercialization of the Internet - Support models in use at your site - Dealing with differences in UNIX implementations -- migration and interoperability among BSD, SVR4, OSF and others - Integration of UNIX-based with non-UNIX-based and proprietary systems and networking technologies (Mac, NT and DOS PCs) - Application of emerging technologies (Mbone, Mosaic) to system administration - Administration and security of distributed information services (WAIS, gopher, WWW) and network voice and video teleconferencing (Mbone) - Experience supporting mobile and location-independent computing - Experience with large (1000+ machine) networks, especially networks of SVR4-based systems - Real-world experience with implementations of proposed system administration standards - Unusual applications of commercial system administration software packages - Application of operational planning techniques to system administration including measurements and metrics, continuous process improvement, automation, and increasing productivity - File migration, archival storage and backup systems in extremely large environments - Innovative tools and techniques that have worked for you - Managing high-demand and high-availability environments - Migrating to new hardware and software technologies - Administration of remote sites that have no technical experts - Supporting MIS organizations on UNIX - Real-world experiences with emerging procedural/ethical issues-- e.g., developing site policies, tracking abusers, and implementing solutions to security problems - Networking non-traditional sites (libraries, museums, K-12) REFEREED PAPER SUBMISSIONS An extended abstract is required for the paper selection process. Full papers are not acceptable at this stage; if you send a full paper, you must also include an extended abstract. "Extended" means 2-5 pages. Include references to establish that you are familiar with related work, and, where possible, provide detailed performance data to establish that you have a working implementation or measurement tool. Submissions will be judged on the quality of the written submission, and whether or not the work advances the state of the art of system administration. For more detailed author instructions and a sample extended abstract, send email to lisa9authors@usenix.org. or call USENIX at +1 (510) 528-8649. Note that the USENIX organization, like most conferences and journals, requires that papers not be submitted simultaneously to more than one conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by "non-disclosure agreement" forms are not acceptable and will be returned unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidence prior to publication in the conference proceedings, both as a matter of policy and as protected by the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976. Authors of an accepted paper must provide a final paper for publication in the conference proceedings. At least one author of each accepted paper presents the paper at the conference. Final papers are limited to 20 pages, including diagrams, figures and appendixes, and must be in troff, ASCII, or LaTeX format. We will supply you with instructions. Papers should include a brief description of the site, where appropriate. Conference proceedings, containing all refereed papers and materials from the invited talks, will be distributed to attendees and will also be available from the USENIX following the conference. WHERE TO SEND SUBMISSIONS Please submit extended abstracts for the refereed paper track by two of the following methods: % E-mail to: lisa9papers@usenix.org % FAX to: +1 (510) 548-5738 % Mail to: LISA 9 Conference USENIX Association 2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215, Berkeley, CA USA 94710 To discuss potential submissions, and for inquiries regarding the content of the conference program, contact the program co-chairs at lisa9chair@usenix.org or at: Tina M. Darmohray +1 (510) 443-4425 E-mail: tmd@usenix.org Paul Evans Synopsys, Inc. 700 East Middlefield Road Mountain View, CA USA 94043 +1 (415) 694-1855 FAX: +1 (415) 965-8637 E-mail: ple@usenix.org INVITED TALK TRACK If you have a topic of general interest to system administrators, but that is not suited for a traditional technical paper submission, please submit a proposal for a second track presentation to the invited talk (IT) coordinators at or to: Laura de Leon, Hewlett-Packard +1 (415) 857-5605 FAX: +1 (415) 857-5686 E-mail: deleon@hpl.hp.com Peg Schafer, Harvard University +1 (617) 495-4927 FAX: +1 (617) 496-5508 E-mail: peg@harvard.edu PROGRAM COMMITTEE Program Co-chair: Tina Darmohray, Consultant Program Co-chair: Paul Evans, Synopsys, Inc. Paul Anderson, University of Edinburgh Kim Carney, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Rob Kolstad, Berkeley Software Design, Inc. Bryan McDonald, SRI International Marcus Ranum, Trusted Information Systems, Inc. John Schimmel, Silicon Graphics, Inc. VENDOR DISPLAY Wednesday, September 20, 1995 Well-informed vendor representatives will demonstrate products and services at the informal table-top display. If your company would like to participate, please contact: Zanna Knight +1 (510) 528-8649 FAX: +1 (510) 548-5738 E-mail: display@usenix.org BIRDS-OF-A-FEATHER SESSIONS Birds-of-a-Feather sessions (BoFs) are very informal gatherings of attendees interested in a particular topic. BoFs are held Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday evenings of the conference. BoFs may be scheduled in advance by telephoning the USENIX Conference Office at +1 (714) 588-8649 or via e-mail to conference@usenix.org. They may also be scheduled at the conference. FOR REGISTRATION INFORMATION All details of the conference program, conference registration fees and forms, and hotel discount and reservation information will be available in July, 1995. If you wish to receive registration materials, please contact: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert Street, Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 +1 (714) 588-8649 FAX: +1 (714) 588-9706 E-mail: conference@usenix.org For more information about USENIX and its events, access the USENIX Resource Center on the World Wide Web. The URL is http://www.usenix.org. OR send email to our mailserver at info@usenix.org. Your message should contain the line: send catalog. A catalog will be returned to you. From sage-members-owner Wed Apr 12 12:28:43 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA19915; Wed, 12 Apr 95 12:28:43 PDT Received: from iwi.iwi.com (iwi.com) by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA19908; Wed, 12 Apr 95 12:28:33 PDT Received: by iwi.iwi.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for <@iwi.iwi.com:sage-members@usenix.org> id MAA08837; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:26:49 -0700 Received: from charleston.iwi.com(193.26.80.1) by iwi.iwi.com via smap (V1.3) id sma008833; Wed Apr 12 12:26:34 1995 Received: by charleston (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id MAA03780; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:28:44 -0700 From: tmd@iwi.com (Tina M. Darmohray) Message-Id: <199504121928.MAA03780@charleston> Subject: are you going to SANS? To: sage-members@usenix.ORG Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 12:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tmd@charleston.iwi.com (Tina M. Darmohray) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 4803 Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk Greetings SAGE members! We'd like to provide some summaries of sessions at the upcoming SANS conference in ;login:. If you are planning on attending any of the sessions below and would be willing to jot down some notes and send them to me, it would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if you think you can do this, and for what session. Thanks! Tina ***** ========================= SANS TECHNICAL CONFERENCE ========================= CHAIR: ROB KOLSTAD, BSDI Keynote: Wednesday, April 26th, 4:15 pm Internet Revealed Carl Malamud Presented by the man who many claim is doing more to mainstream the Internet than all the world's governments and professional societies, together. =================================== SANS'95 SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION TRACK =================================== Thursday, April 27, 1995 9:00 am to 5:30 pm Friday, April 28, 1995 9:00 am to 4:00 pm Goals of System Administration Elizabeth Zwicky, Silicon Graphics How To Hire Good System Administrators Michele Crabb, Sterling Software-NASA Ames System Administration Ethics Rob Kolstad, BSDI The 1994 SANS Salary Survey Alan Paller, Computer Associates Advanced Topics In perl (Four separate parts) Tom Christiansen >From the other side of the desk: Observations of consumers from executives in the software and service industries Scott Menter and Rob Kolstad "Best of Sys Admin Magazine" Joint project with Sys Admin Magazine to bring the author of 1994's year's best article to SANS. People Skills for the System Administrator P. David Parks, IEEE Managing People's Data Diana Le, NAS Systems Division, NASA Ames Research Center Client-Server Disaster Recovery: Process Organization James C. Murphy, Glaxo Inc. Maintaining Large Software Repositories with SLINK R4 Alva L. Couch, Assoc. Prof. of Computer Science, Tufts University and Greg Owen, Xerox Information Systems Experiences With Legato NetWorker: Backing-up Heterogeneity Phillip Scarr, Neuroclinical Trials Center, The Virginia Neurological Institute Some Observations and Experiences Regarding Remote Sites and Corporate Mergers in a Large, Heterogeneous Network Jody Fraser, The MacNeal-Schwendler Corporation Using Surveys To Manage Clients' Perception of Help Desk Service Delivery Tom Jordan, Vice President, Deutsche Bank A Mail Proxy Approach to Managing Shared Facilities Peter Koski, Goldman, Sachs & Co. =========================== SANS'95 SECURITY TRACK =========================== CHAIRS: Michele Crabb, Sterling and NASA, and Matt Bishop, U. Cal. Davis Thursday, April 27, 1995 9:00 am to 5:30 pm Friday, April 28, 1995 9:00 am to 4:00 pm Plenary Panel: Computer Security and the Law - Who Do You Call When Something Happens? Scott Charney, Dept. of Justice, and friends A Network Security FAQ: (Frequently Agonizing Quandaries) Marcus Ranum, Trusted Information Systems The Basics of UNIX Vulnerabilities: Case Studies and Analysis Matt Bishop, Univ. Cal. at Davis The Pros and Cos of Vulnerability Information Disclosure Gene Spafford, Purdue University Building A Security Infrastructure: What You Want vs. What You Need vs. What You Can Afford Michele Crabb, Sterling Software, NASA Ames Security Technology: Enabler or Disabler Dan Geer, OpenVision Panel: Experience With The Internet Sniffer Attacks Arranged by Michele Crabb ================================== SANS NETWORKING AND INTERNET TRACK ================================== CHAIR: Amy Kreiling, UNC Friday, April 28, 1995 9:00 am to 4:00 pm History of UNIX and the Internet Peter Salus A Primer on Connecting to the Internet Safely and Reliably Marcus Ranum, Trusted Information Systems PONG: A Flexible Network Services Monitoring System Helen Harrison, SAS Institute, Inc. with Mike C. Mitchell and Mike E. Shaddock Internet: Hot Topics Amy Kreiling, University of North Carolina The Future Of The Internet: What's Really Happening With Communications? To Be Named Nuts and Bolts of ISDN: A Practical Guide Jack Stewart, Center for Advanced Computational Research, California Institute of Technology Performance Monitoring for Network Preemptive Maintenance F. B. Motahdi and David C. C. Wang, GTE Telephone Operations The NetScanner Network Monitoring Tool: A Quick, Simple And Extensible Network Watcher Jack Stewart, Center for Advanced Computational Research, California Institute of Technology =========================== SANS COMMERCIAL TOOLS TRACK =========================== Thursday, April 27, 1995 9:00 am to 5:30 pm Briefings by technical managers from twelve leading firms offering important commercial software and hardware products of immediate value to system administrators and security managers. ================================================================= From sage-members-owner Fri Apr 21 06:19:39 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA09853; Fri, 21 Apr 95 06:19:39 PDT Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA09840; Fri, 21 Apr 95 06:19:30 PDT Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phibes.dartmouth.edu (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA14677; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:18:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199504211318.JAA14677@phibes.dartmouth.edu> To: sage-active@usenix.ORG, sage-members@usenix.ORG Subject: SAGE at SANS Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:18:57 -0500 From: Pat Wilson Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk There will be a SAGE booth at next week's SANS conference, as well as a SAGE BoF (Wednesday evening). We could use some help at the booth - if you're going to be at SAGE, and would like to donate a couple of hours to "booth babe" duty, please let me know. Experienced Booth Babes know that the SAGE booth is a great way to see and be seen, and you get to meet nice people, too! See you at SANS - Pat Wilson paw@usenix.org || paw@northstar.dartmouth.edu From sage-members-owner Mon Apr 24 10:59:09 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA23988; Mon, 24 Apr 95 10:59:09 PDT Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA23585; Mon, 24 Apr 95 10:13:04 PDT Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA05769 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:12:12 -0700 Received: from intrepid.synopsys.com (intrepid.synopsys.com [146.225.72.45]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA05589; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:12:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199504241712.KAA05589@atropos.synopsys.com> To: baylisa@baylisa.org, bblisa-announce@cs.umb.edu, groupname@plts.org, nysa@esm.com, ncsa-announce@cs.unc.edu, dc-sage@mjr.com, sage-announce@usenix.ORG, sage-members@usenix.ORG Subject: Last Call for LISA 95 Paper Submissions! Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 10:11:50 -0700 From: ple@synopsys.com Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk The due date for submitting extended abstracts for the LISA 95 conference is one week from today, on Monday, May 1st! Please send your abstracts in to lisa9papers@usenix.org this week. We look forward to reviewing your submissions. Tina Darmohray Paul Evans ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ANNOUNCEMENT & CALL FOR PARTICIPATION 9th USENIX SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATION CONFERENCE (LISA '95) September 18-22, 1995 Monterey Conference Center, Monterey, California Co-sponsored by USENIX, the Advanced Computing Systems Professional and Technical Association, and SAGE, the System Administrators Guild IMPORTANT DATES Refereed Paper Submissions: Extended abstracts due: May 1, 1995 Notification to authors: June 5, 1995 Final papers due: August 1, 1995 Advanced Topics in System Administration Workshop: Proposals Due: August 1, 1995 Notification to authors: August 14, 1995 Registration materials available: July, 1995 The USENIX Systems Administration (LISA) Conference is widely recognized as the leading technical conference for system administrators. Historically, LISA stood for "Large Installation Systems Administration," back in the days when having a large installation meant having over 100 users, over 100 systems, or over one gigabyte of disk storage. Today, the scope of the LISA conference includes topics of interest to system administrators from sites of all sizes and kinds. What the conference attendees have in common is an interest in solving problems that cannot be dealt with simply by scaling up well-understood solutions appropriate to a single machine or a small number of workstations on a LAN. The theme for this year's conference is "New Challenges," which includes such emerging issues as integration of non-UNIX and proprietary systems and networking technologies, distributed information services, network voice and video teleconferencing, and managing very complex networks. We are particularly interested in technical papers that reflect hands-on experience, describe fully implemented and freely distributable solutions, and advance the state of the art of system administration as an engineering discipline. WORKSHOP: ADVANCED TOPICS IN SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION Tuesday, September 19, 1995 A one-day, pre-LISA conference workshop, to be held Tuesday, September 19, 1995, will focus on a discussion of the latest-breaking technical issues in the systems administration arena as introduced by those in attendance. Attendance is limited and based on acceptance of a position paper. Acceptance notices to all participants will be issued by August 14, 1995. HOW TO SUBMIT: Potential workshop attendees are invited to submit a proposal of at most 3 pages (ASCII) via electronic mail to jes@sgi.com no later than August 1. These proposals should briefly contain a topic for discussion, a description of the subject, an explanation of what makes this topic controversial or interesting, and a personal position. (More substantive reports of completed works should instead be submitted as papers to the technical sessions.) A representative subset of positions will be discussed in an open forum. The workshop is being organized by John Schimmel of Silicon Graphics. Mail these proposals to jes@sgi.com by August 1. Chosen participants will be notified by August 14. Participants must be pre-registered for the LISA conference. No additional fee will be charged to attend this workshop, and lunch will be provided. TUTORIAL PROGRAM Monday and Tuesday, September 18-19, 1995 The two-day tutorial program at the conference offers up to five tracks of full- and half-day tutorials. Tutorials offer expert instruction in areas of interest to system administrators of all levels, from novice through senior. Topics are expected to include networking, advanced system administration tools, Solaris and BSD administration, Perl programming, firewalls, NIS, DNS, Sendmail, and more. To provide the best possible tutorial offerings, USENIX continually solicits proposals for new tutorials. If you are interested in presenting a tutorial at this or other USENIX conferences, please contact the tutorial coordinator: Daniel V. Klein +1 (412) 421-0285 FAX: +1 (412) 421-2332 E-mail: dvk@usenix.org TECHNICAL SESSIONS Wednesday through Friday, September 20-22, 1995 The three days of technical sessions consist of two parallel tracks. The first track is dedicated to presentations of refereed technical papers. The second track is intended to accommodate invited talks, panels and Works-in-Progress (WIP) sessions. CONFERENCE TOPICS Papers addressing the following topics are particularly timely; papers addressing other technical areas of general interest are equally welcome. - Your plans for the year 2000 - Deployment of new networking technologies - Coping with the commercialization of the Internet - Support models in use at your site - Dealing with differences in UNIX implementations -- migration and interoperability among BSD, SVR4, OSF and others - Integration of UNIX-based with non-UNIX-based and proprietary systems and networking technologies (Mac, NT and DOS PCs) - Application of emerging technologies (Mbone, Mosaic) to system administration - Administration and security of distributed information services (WAIS, gopher, WWW) and network voice and video teleconferencing (Mbone) - Experience supporting mobile and location-independent computing - Experience with large (1000+ machine) networks, especially networks of SVR4-based systems - Real-world experience with implementations of proposed system administration standards - Unusual applications of commercial system administration software packages - Application of operational planning techniques to system administration including measurements and metrics, continuous process improvement, automation, and increasing productivity - File migration, archival storage and backup systems in extremely large environments - Innovative tools and techniques that have worked for you - Managing high-demand and high-availability environments - Migrating to new hardware and software technologies - Administration of remote sites that have no technical experts - Supporting MIS organizations on UNIX - Real-world experiences with emerging procedural/ethical issues-- e.g., developing site policies, tracking abusers, and implementing solutions to security problems - Networking non-traditional sites (libraries, museums, K-12) REFEREED PAPER SUBMISSIONS An extended abstract is required for the paper selection process. Full papers are not acceptable at this stage; if you send a full paper, you must also include an extended abstract. "Extended" means 2-5 pages. Include references to establish that you are familiar with related work, and, where possible, provide detailed performance data to establish that you have a working implementation or measurement tool. Submissions will be judged on the quality of the written submission, and whether or not the work advances the state of the art of system administration. For more detailed author instructions and a sample extended abstract, send email to lisa9authors@usenix.org. or call USENIX at +1 (510) 528-8649. Note that the USENIX organization, like most conferences and journals, requires that papers not be submitted simultaneously to more than one conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by "non-disclosure agreement" forms are not acceptable and will be returned unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidence prior to publication in the conference proceedings, both as a matter of policy and as protected by the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976. Authors of an accepted paper must provide a final paper for publication in the conference proceedings. At least one author of each accepted paper presents the paper at the conference. Final papers are limited to 20 pages, including diagrams, figures and appendixes, and must be in troff, ASCII, or LaTeX format. We will supply you with instructions. Papers should include a brief description of the site, where appropriate. Conference proceedings, containing all refereed papers and materials from the invited talks, will be distributed to attendees and will also be available from the USENIX following the conference. WHERE TO SEND SUBMISSIONS Please submit extended abstracts for the refereed paper track by two of the following methods: % E-mail to: lisa9papers@usenix.org % FAX to: +1 (510) 548-5738 % Mail to: LISA 9 Conference USENIX Association 2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215, Berkeley, CA USA 94710 To discuss potential submissions, and for inquiries regarding the content of the conference program, contact the program co-chairs at lisa9chair@usenix.org or at: Tina M. Darmohray +1 (510) 443-4425 E-mail: tmd@usenix.org Paul Evans Synopsys, Inc. 700 East Middlefield Road Mountain View, CA USA 94043 +1 (415) 694-1855 FAX: +1 (415) 965-8637 E-mail: ple@usenix.org INVITED TALK TRACK If you have a topic of general interest to system administrators, but that is not suited for a traditional technical paper submission, please submit a proposal for a second track presentation to the invited talk (IT) coordinators at or to: Laura de Leon, Hewlett-Packard +1 (415) 857-5605 FAX: +1 (415) 857-5686 E-mail: deleon@hpl.hp.com Peg Schafer, Harvard University +1 (617) 495-4927 FAX: +1 (617) 496-5508 E-mail: peg@harvard.edu PROGRAM COMMITTEE Program Co-chair: Tina Darmohray, Consultant Program Co-chair: Paul Evans, Synopsys, Inc. Paul Anderson, University of Edinburgh Kim Carney, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Rob Kolstad, Berkeley Software Design, Inc. Bryan McDonald, SRI International Marcus Ranum, Trusted Information Systems, Inc. John Schimmel, Silicon Graphics, Inc. VENDOR DISPLAY Wednesday, September 20, 1995 Well-informed vendor representatives will demonstrate products and services at the informal table-top display. If your company would like to participate, please contact: Zanna Knight +1 (510) 528-8649 FAX: +1 (510) 548-5738 E-mail: display@usenix.org BIRDS-OF-A-FEATHER SESSIONS Birds-of-a-Feather sessions (BoFs) are very informal gatherings of attendees interested in a particular topic. BoFs are held Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday evenings of the conference. BoFs may be scheduled in advance by telephoning the USENIX Conference Office at +1 (714) 588-8649 or via e-mail to conference@usenix.org. They may also be scheduled at the conference. FOR REGISTRATION INFORMATION All details of the conference program, conference registration fees and forms, and hotel discount and reservation information will be available in July, 1995. If you wish to receive registration materials, please contact: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert Street, Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 +1 (714) 588-8649 FAX: +1 (714) 588-9706 E-mail: conference@usenix.org For more information about USENIX and its events, access the USENIX Resource Center on the World Wide Web. The URL is http://www.usenix.org. OR send email to our mailserver at info@usenix.org. Your message should contain the line: send catalog. A catalog will be returned to you. From sage-members-owner Wed May 3 15:08:23 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA00323; Wed, 3 May 95 15:08:23 PDT Received: from camelot.netmarket.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA00315; Wed, 3 May 95 15:08:21 PDT Received: from tannis.netmarket.com (tannis.netmarket.com [172.16.1.10]) by camelot.netmarket.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA15646 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 18:07:48 -0400 Received: from delphi.netmarket.com (delphi.netmarket.com [172.16.1.25]) by tannis.netmarket.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id SAA08803; Wed, 3 May 1995 18:07:47 -0400 From: Josh Smith Received: (josh@localhost) by delphi.netmarket.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id SAA00577; Wed, 3 May 1995 18:07:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 18:07:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199505032207.SAA00577@delphi.netmarket.com> To: sage-members@usenix.ORG (SAGE Discussion List) Subject: Paging software Reply-To: Josh Smith X-Attribution: JBS Organization: The NetMarket Company, Cambridge MA USA Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk Greetings, all: I spoke with a couple of people at the recent SANS conference in DC about software to handle IXO paging, and the two free packages that came up most often were buzzerd and tpage. I've found tpage at a couple of sites on the net, but they all seem to be missing things like a Makefile, in spite of there being references to one in the docs. I haven't been able to track down buzzerd anywhere. It seems to have been presented at LISA VI by Darren R. Hardy and Herb M. Morreale, but archie didn't have any sites for it, and it wasn't listed in the UUNET archives master index. If anyone knows where I could find either of these tools (or anything similar that you're using), I'd greatly appreciate a pointer. Thanks in advance for any help! -- Josh Smith :: WWW: http://www.netmarket.com/ Senior Systems Manager :: FTP/Telnet/Gopher: netmarket.com The NetMarket Company :: Finger/E-mail: info@netmarket.com From sage-members-owner Wed May 3 19:48:14 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA03116; Wed, 3 May 95 19:48:14 PDT Received: from jupiter.superlink.net by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA03109; Wed, 3 May 95 19:48:10 PDT Received: from plts.org (plts.superlink.net [204.97.220.107]) by jupiter.superlink.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA00187; Wed, 3 May 1995 22:48:53 -0400 Received: by plts.org id AA11801 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 3 May 1995 22:48:16 -0400 From: Tom Limoncelli Message-Id: <199505040248.AA11801@plts.org> Subject: Re: Paging software To: josh@netmarket.com Date: Wed, 3 May 95 22:48:15 EDT Cc: sage-members@usenix.ORG In-Reply-To: <199505032207.SAA00577@delphi.netmarket.com>; from "Josh Smith" at May 3, 95 6:07 pm Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk > I've found tpage at a couple of sites on the net, but they all seem to be > missing things like a Makefile, in spite of there being references to one in > the docs. I use tpage because... oh wait, I wrote it. The old version doesn't need a makefile because it assumes you have a make that is smart enough to do foo.c -> foo.o -> foo just given "make foo". The newer versions do have a Makefile. I haven't done much with the code. Someone needs to grab it, merge in any patches and re-package it so that it is easier to install. I might do it myself if I get out from under my pile of todo items. In the meanwhile, here's how to get the latest: -------- begin 'ixo-info' -------- To have FTP information and info about the mailing list sent to you: echo info ixo | mail majordomo@plts.org To join the ixo mailing list: echo subscribe ixo | mail majordomo@plts.org -------- end 'ixo-info' -------- -- Tom Limoncelli -- tal@plts.org (home) -- tal@big.att.com (work) "Would you compare your system administrator to `Indiana Jones' or `Tank Girl'?" "Both!" From sage-members-owner Thu May 4 08:47:08 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA07602; Thu, 4 May 95 08:47:08 PDT Received: from xor.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA07595; Thu, 4 May 95 08:47:01 PDT Received: from localhost.xor.com (herb@localhost.xor.com [127.0.0.1]) by xor.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA16402; Thu, 4 May 1995 09:46:20 -0600 Message-Id: <199505041546.JAA16402@xor.com> From: "Herb M. Morreale" To: Josh Smith Subject: Re: Paging software Cc: sage-members@usenix.ORG (SAGE Discussion List) In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 03 May 95 18:07:46 EDT Date: Thu, 04 May 95 09:46:19 -0600 Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk From: Josh Smith Subject: Paging software Greetings, all: I spoke with a couple of people at the recent SANS conference in DC about software to handle IXO paging, and the two free packages that came up most often were buzzerd and tpage. I've found tpage at a couple of sites on the net, but they all seem to be missing things like a Makefile, in spite of there being references to one in the docs. I haven't been able to track down buzzerd anywhere. It seems to have been presented at LISA VI by Darren R. Hardy and Herb M. Morreale, but archie didn't have any sites for it, and it wasn't listed in the UUNET archives master index. [...] ---- It's sad to report, but buzzerd has it's wings clipped a bit too early in life (lack of funding). We haven't released it for public domain yet since there's still possible it might have a second life. If it doesn't start twitching soon, I'll probably release around the end of this year. tpage is my recommendation... Herb Morreale: original author of buzzerd From sage-members-owner Thu May 4 11:24:22 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA09494; Thu, 4 May 95 11:24:22 PDT Received: from nothing.ucsd.edu by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA09487; Thu, 4 May 95 11:24:20 PDT Received: by nothing.ucsd.edu (8.6.10/UCSDGENERIC.4) id LAA01315 to ; Thu, 4 May 1995 11:23:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 11:23:33 -0700 From: brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) Message-Id: <199505041823.LAA01315@nothing.ucsd.edu> To: herb@xor.com, josh@netmarket.com Subject: Re: Paging software Cc: sage-members@usenix.ORG Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/pub/tap.shar is a paging module that can be called from other software, such as trouble-reporting scripts or sendmail. Share and enjoy. - Brian From sage-members-owner Mon May 15 15:31:27 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA20783; Mon, 15 May 95 15:31:27 PDT Received: from camelot.netmarket.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA20776; Mon, 15 May 95 15:31:24 PDT Received: from tannis.netmarket.com (tannis.netmarket.com [172.16.1.10]) by camelot.netmarket.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA04760 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 18:30:50 -0400 Received: (from josh@localhost) by tannis.netmarket.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id SAA14727; Mon, 15 May 1995 18:30:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 18:30:49 -0400 From: Josh Smith Message-Id: <199505152230.SAA14727@tannis.netmarket.com> To: sage-members@usenix.ORG (SAGE Discussion List) Subject: Paging software results summary In-Reply-To: <199505032207.SAA00577@delphi.netmarket.com> References: <199505032207.SAA00577@delphi.netmarket.com> Reply-To: Josh Smith X-Attribution: JBS Organization: The NetMarket Company, Cambridge MA USA Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk Here's a brief summary of my efforts to obtain and install some free alphanumeric paging software: * buzzerd was never released, and development was cut off some time ago. The author (Herb Morreale) reports that a commercial or free version may come out eventually, but he recommended tpage in the meanwhile. * A couple of people recommended tpage. In spite of references to a Makefile in the docs, though, I couldn't find a distribution that included one, and it appears (to my admittedly fairly superficial skim) to be an essential piece of the puzzle. Even the allegedly canonical source (at "ftp://anonftp.geo.mtu.edu:/pub/ixo/tpage-2.40.tar.gz") lacked a Makefile, and my attempts to compile without one on my Solaris 2.3 system failed miserably. * A couple of other people recommended HylaFax, the latest incarnation of FlexFax. It took me a while to find out where the paging support was, but I finally figured out that it claimed to do what I needed -- and lo and behold, when compiled and installed, it actually did. So, I'm using HylaFax now, and am very happy with it; I'd recommend it in general, especially if you're already running FlexFax, or have thought about doing so. It seems to be a much more robust product than previous versions of FlexFax, so if you've had a bad time with FlexFax in the past (I had), you might want to give this a try. I'm still missing one piece, though: I discovered that the paging service we use only supports the IXO protocol for its alphanumeric pagers, and that their IXO server won't talk to numeric pagers. I'd hoped that HylaFax might support the standard SkyPage touch-tone interface, but it doesn't seem to. (If I'm wrong about this, I'd love to know how to do it; it'd be great to use it for everything...) Assuming that HylaFax really doesn't talk to a touch-tone service, though, does anyone have any recommendations for software that does? Thanks again to everyone who sent suggestions to my first query, especially those who I haven't thanked already. :^/ -- Josh Smith :: WWW: http://www.netmarket.com/ Senior Systems Manager :: FTP/Telnet/Gopher: netmarket.com The NetMarket Company :: Finger/E-mail: info@netmarket.com From sage-members-owner Thu Jun 8 11:36:26 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA15885; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:36:26 PDT Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA15487; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:53:45 PDT Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA07160 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:53:06 -0700 Received: from intrepid.synopsys.com (intrepid.synopsys.com [146.225.72.45]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA18907; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:53:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199506081753.KAA18907@atropos.synopsys.com> To: sage-announce@usenix.ORG, sage-members@usenix.ORG Subject: nominations for 1995 SAGE Achievement Award Date: Thu, 08 Jun 95 10:52:58 -0700 From: ple@synopsys.com Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk SAGE is soliciting nominations for its third annual Achievement Award, to be presented this September in Monterey at the USENIX/SAGE LISA 95 Conference. The SAGE board has set up a special committee to select this year's recipient, and we're inviting your suggestions. The award will go to someone whose professional contributions to the system administration community over a number of years merit special recognition. The first recipients of the award (in 1993) were Max Vasilatos and Rob Kolstad, for their role in organizing the early LISA conferences, and general contributions to the system administration community. Last year's recipient was Larry Wall, for his work on Perl and other system administration tools. The awards committee would like to keep the selection process informal; there isn't a formal nominating procedure, and we will consider all suggestions submitted. So please send in suggestions for people whose professional accomplishments you believe deserve the recognition of a SAGE Achievement Award to sage-award@usenix.org. Paul Evans SAGE Board From sage-members-owner Thu Aug 24 07:48:16 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA27164; Thu, 24 Aug 95 07:48:16 PDT Received: from camelot.netmarket.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA27157; Thu, 24 Aug 95 07:48:13 PDT Received: from tannis.netmarket.com (tannis.netmarket.com [172.16.1.10]) by camelot.netmarket.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA03418 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:47:27 -0400 Received: (from josh@localhost) by tannis.netmarket.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id KAA05759; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:47:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:47:27 -0400 From: Josh Smith Message-Id: <199508241447.KAA05759@tannis.netmarket.com> To: sage-members@usenix.ORG (SAGE Discussion List) Subject: Enterprise-wide backup solutions Reply-To: Josh Smith X-Attribution: JBS Organization: The NetMarket Company, Cambridge MA USA Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk The term is a bit of a cliche, but we're looking for an enterprise-wide network backup solution. In the case of our particular enterprise, this would ideally mean a product with a Solaris 2.x SPARC server, and with clients for Solaris 2.x (both SPARC and x86), MS Windows 3.11, and MacOS 7.5. Support for SGI's and Windows NT are a plus. A brief look around turned up IBM's ADSTAR, which doesn't seem to support any micros other than OS/2, and Legato NetWorker, which doesn't seem to support Macs. Are our loyal Mac users out of luck, or is there a solution based on a Unix server that includes them too? If the Mac folks are SOL, we'd still be interested in something that would cover everyone else. We're also considering leaving all the micros out to dry, and going with a strictly Unix-based solution, but we'd really prefer to include them in a unified system. Any information about packages that fit these description would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for any leads! -- Josh Smith :: WWW: http://www.netmarket.com/ Senior Systems Manager :: FTP/Telnet/Gopher: netmarket.com The NetMarket Company :: Finger/E-mail: info@netmarket.com From sage-members-owner Wed Sep 13 10:28:47 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA25321; Wed, 13 Sep 95 10:28:47 PDT Received: from sredmon.nawc-ad-indy.navy.mil by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA25288; Wed, 13 Sep 95 10:28:18 PDT Received: (from redmons@localhost) by sredmon.nawc-ad-indy.navy.mil (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA12284; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 12:27:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 12:26:46 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Redmon To: sage-members@usenix.ORG Subject: LISA 95 must be huge!!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk I have been fighting fires so much this summer that I didn't get my registration in early like I was able to do last year. BIG mistake! Even though everyone said finding a room would be a problem, I did manage to find a room about 3 miles from the Conference Center. The real problem is trying to get a flight into Monterey. All of the flights are overbooked. I was given the option of flying to San Jose and driving 60 miles to Monterey. Seems like I have been spending forever on the phone trying to get a room and a flight. I've decided I will skip LISA this year. Trying to get everything done at the last minute just doesn't pay off. Adding to the burden is the fact that rushing travel plans through a government facility is real pain. What is going on in Monterey? My understanding was that the Jazz festival ends on Sunday the 17th. Looks like it will be a great conference. Hope everyone has fun!! Scott Redmon From sage-members-owner Wed Sep 13 12:40:28 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA03081; Wed, 13 Sep 95 12:40:28 PDT Received: from relay1.UU.NET by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA02993; Wed, 13 Sep 95 12:38:55 PDT Received: from miles.greatcircle.com by relay1.UU.NET with ESMTP id QQzhba07373; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:38:06 -0400 Received: from [198.102.244.40] (pm-ppp-1.greatcircle.com [198.102.244.39]) by miles.greatcircle.com (8.6.9/Miles-950430-1) with SMTP id MAA03920; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 12:38:29 -0700 X-Sender: brent@miles.greatcircle.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:37:59 -0800 To: Scott Redmon , sage-members@usenix.ORG From: Brent@GreatCircle.COM (Brent Chapman) Subject: Re: LISA 95 must be huge!!! Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk At 12:26 PM 9/13/95, Scott Redmon wrote: >I have been fighting fires so much this summer that I didn't get my >registration in early like I was able to do last year. BIG mistake! > >Even though everyone said finding a room would be a problem, I did >manage to find a room about 3 miles from the Conference Center. >The real problem is trying to get a flight into Monterey. All of the >flights are overbooked. I was given the option of flying to San Jose >and driving 60 miles to Monterey. I think that flying into San Jose really is the best way to get to Monterey; it's mostly freeway through the open country between San Jose and Monterey, so it should probably only be an hour or so drive. It's probably faster to fly to San Jose and drive from there than to fly to San Jose or San Francisco, change planes, and then fly to Monterey. Even driving from San Francisco is only about 90 minutes, as long as you don't hit rush hour (~4pm to ~7pm, on that stretch of freeway). -Brent -- Brent Chapman | Great Circle Associates | For Firewalls Tutorial info: Brent@GreatCircle.COM | 1057 West Dana Street | Tutorial-Info@GreatCircle.COM +1 415 962 0841 | Mountain View, CA 94041 | http://www.greatcircle.com From sage-members-owner Wed Sep 13 17:55:08 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA21335; Wed, 13 Sep 95 17:55:08 PDT Received: from sgigate.sgi.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA21326; Wed, 13 Sep 95 17:55:06 PDT Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA26696; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 17:53:21 -0700 Received: from pterodactyl.corp.sgi.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/911001.SGI) id RAA21827; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 17:53:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by pterodactyl.corp.sgi.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id RAA01605; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 17:53:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199509140053.RAA01605@pterodactyl.corp.sgi.com> To: Scott Redmon Cc: sage-members@usenix.ORG, zwicky@pterodactyl.corp.sgi.com Subject: Re: LISA 95 must be huge!!! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 13 Sep 95 12:26:46 CDT." Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 17:53:06 -0700 From: "Elizabeth D. Zwicky" Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk Actually, it's generally advisable to drive to Monterey instead of flying, regardless of the flight status. It's a very small airport, and a quite reasonable drive from San Jose. Elizabeth D. Zwicky zwicky@corp.sgi.com From sage-members-owner Wed Sep 13 19:45:22 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA27293; Wed, 13 Sep 95 19:45:22 PDT Received: from heimdal.sysadmin.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA27284; Wed, 13 Sep 95 19:45:19 PDT Received: from localhost (ftp@localhost) by heimdal.sysadmin.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA21499; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 20:02:48 -0700 Received: from unknown(10.0.2.2) by heimdal.sysadmin.com via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma021497; Wed Sep 13 20:02:37 1995 Received: from baldr.sysadmin.com (bjorn@baldr.sysadmin.com [10.0.3.4]) by thor.sysadmin.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA15571; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 19:43:32 -0700 Received: (bjorn@localhost) by baldr.sysadmin.com (8.6.9/8.6.5) id UAA24282; Wed, 13 Sep 1995 20:12:01 -0700 From: Bjorn Satdeva Message-Id: <199509140312.UAA24282@baldr.sysadmin.com> Subject: Re: LISA 95 must be huge!!! To: zwicky@pterodactyl.corp.sgi.com (Elizabeth D. Zwicky) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 20:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: redmons@sredmon.nawc-ad-indy.navy.mil, sage-members@usenix.ORG, zwicky@pterodactyl.corp.sgi.com In-Reply-To: <199509140053.RAA01605@pterodactyl.corp.sgi.com> from "Elizabeth D. Zwicky" at Sep 13, 95 05:53:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1183 Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk Elizabeth D. Zwicky writes: > >Actually, it's generally advisable to drive to Monterey instead of >flying, regardless of the flight status. It's a very small airport, >and a quite reasonable drive from San Jose. > If you choose to drive on Highway 17 between Los Gatos, be careful. That stretch of the highway is narrow and curvy, the speed high, and with many slow trucks. Not very surprisingly, accidents are frequent. An alternate route between Los Gatos and Santa Cruz _during the day time_ is Highway Nine. Turn off 17 in Los Gatos, and you will join Highway One in about the same place as Highway 17 does. Highway One is also narrow and windy, but so is all roads across the mountains. The pace is slower, and there are places to pull over to let the faster traffic by. There is a third alternative, going south on 101, and then crossing the mountains on 156. Morning and midday, this might be the fastest, but in the afternoon, you will get a solid dose of bay-area bumper to bumper traffic on 101. Whatever route you choose, drive carefully. Bjorn -- Bjorn Satdeva -- email: bjorn@sysadmin.com /sys/admin, inc. The Unix System Management Experts (408) 241 3111 From sage-members-owner Thu Sep 28 17:32:30 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA04749; Thu, 28 Sep 95 17:32:30 PDT Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA04740; Thu, 28 Sep 95 17:32:28 PDT Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 17:32:28 PDT From: carolyn (Carolyn Carr) Message-Id: <9509290032.AA04740@usenix.ORG> To: sage-members Subject: Letter to SAGE Members Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk Dear SAGE Members, The SAGE Board of Directors wishes to spur you into reading, researching and considering the "Gorton - Exon Amendment" to the Communications Decency Act of 1995. We are concerned that there may be some impact upon us as system administrators. This legislation now before the US Congress touches upon many aspects of international telecommunications and the Internet, making it noteworthy to all our members, both inside and outside the bounds of the United States. Below are some questions whose answers may be affected by this legislation, and bear consideration. Are we liable: - if we allow unrestricted USENET feeds into our site? - if we restrict newsgroups based on content, but cross-posting or mis-posting brings undesired data into our facilities? - for the contents of posting, email or other data made available by the users of our systems? - for the contents of email that our users receive, either solicited or not? - for the actions, postings, etc. of users from home systems, both those provided by work, and those individually owned but gaining Internet access through our sites? - for the content of email, postings, etc. that route through our site (anonymous FTP directories that are writable, source-routed email, etc)? - if we do not apply known security techniques and unauthorized users (aka crackers) use our systems to make undesired information available on the Internet? - if we do apply some known security techniques and tools, but not all of them? (Are we held to higher standards based upon our level of expertise and knowledge?) - if our methods are not as effective as others, including those of law enforcement? What policing methods may or must be applied? What methods are outside the bounds of our responsibility/authority? We would like to encourage you to read the proposed legislation and commentary available on the Internet and elsewhere. Some places on the Internet you can begin with are: http://www.efh.org/exon.html http://www.pathfinder.com/pathfinder/politics/netpol/index.html You can also check the Yahoo search engine at http://yahoo.com/ with the keyword Exon. You can get information about contacting your representatives, if you so desire, with this URL and gopher server: http://thomas.loc.gov/ http://www.house.gov http://policy.net/capweb/Senate/Senate.html gopher://ftp.senate.gov/ If you wish to express your view and are not a US citizen or resident, you may contact the Hon. Al Gore, Vice-President. Thank you for your attention to this important matter. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Gorton-Exon Amendment TITLE IV--OBSCENE, HARRASSING, AND WRONGFUL UTILIZATION OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES SEC. 401. SHORT TITLE. This title may be cited as the `Communications Decency Act of 1995'. SEC. 402. OBSCENE OR HARASSING USE OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES UNDER THE COMMUNICATIONS ACT OF 1934. (a) Offenses: Section 223 (47 U.S.C. 223) is amended-- (1) in subsection (a)(1)-- (A) by striking out `telephone' in the matter above subparagraph (A) and inserting `telecommunications device'; (B) by striking out subparagraph (A) and inserting the following: `(A) knowingly-- `(i) makes, creates, or solicits, and `(ii) initiates the transmission of, any comment, request, suggestion, proposal, image, or other communication which is obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, or indecent;'; (C) by striking out subparagraph (B) and inserting the following: `(B) makes a telephone call or utilizes a telecommunications device, whether or not conversation or communications ensues, without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person at the called number or who receives the communication;' and (D) by striking out subparagraph (D) and inserting the following: `(D) makes repeated telephone calls or repeatedly initiates communication with a telecommunications device, during which conversation or communication ensues, solely to harass any person at the called number or who receives the communication; or'; (2) in subsection (a)(2), by striking `telephone' and inserting `telecommunications' and by striking `section' and inserting `subsection'; (3) in subsection (b)(1)-- (A) by striking subparagraph (A) and inserting the following: `(A) within the United States, by means of a telecommunications device-- `(i) makes, creates, or solicits, and `(ii) purposefully makes available, any obscene communication for commercial purposes to any person, regardless of whether the maker of such communication placed the call or initiated the communication; or'; and (B) in subparagraph (B), by striking `telephone facility' and inserting `telecommunications facility'; and (4) in subsection (b)(2)-- (A) by striking subparagraph (A) and inserting the following: `(A) within the United States, by means of telephone or telecommunications device, `(i) makes, creates, or solicits, and `(ii) purposefully makes available (directly or by recording device), any indecent communication for commercial purposes which is available to any person under 18 years of age or to any other person without that person's consent, regardless of whether the maker of such communication placed the call; or'; and (B) in subparagraph (B), by striking `telephone facility' and inserting in lieu thereof `telecommunications facility'. (b) Penalties: Section 223 (47 U.S.C. 223) is amended-- (1) by striking out `$50,000' each place it appears and inserting `$100,000'; and (2) by striking `six months' each place it appears and inserting `2 years'. (c) Prohibition on Provision of Access: Section 223(c)(1) (47 U.S.C. 223(c)(1)) is amended by striking `telephone' and inserting `telecommunications device'. (d) Additional Defenses: Section 223 (47 U.S.C. 223) is amended by adding at the end the following: `(d) Additional Defenses; Restrictions on Access; Judicial Remedies Respecting Restrictions: `(1) No person shall be held to have violated this section with respect to any action by that person or a system under his control that is limited solely to the provision of access, including transmission, downloading, intermediate storage, navigational tools, and related capabilities not involving the creation or alteration of the content of the communications, for another person's communications to or from a service, facility, system, or network not under that person's control. `(2) It is a defense to prosecution under subsections (a)(2), (b)(1)(B), and (b)(2)(B) that a defendant lacked editorial control over the communication specified in this section. `(3) It is a defense to prosecution under subsections (a)(2), (b)(1)(B), and (b)(2)(B) that a defendant has taken good faith, reasonable steps, as appropriate-- `(A) to provide users with the means to restrict access to communications described in this section; `(B) provide users with warnings concerning the potential for access to such communications; `(C) to respond to complaints from those who are subjected to such communications; `(D) to provide mechanisms to enforce a provider's terms of service governing such communications; or `(E) to implement such other measures as the Commission may prescribe to carry out the purposes of this paragraph. Nothing in this section in and of itself shall be construed to treat enhanced information services as common carriage. `(4) In addition to other defenses authorized under this section, it shall be a defense to prosecution under subsection (b) that a defendant is not engaged in a commercial activity that has as a predominant purpose an activity specified in that subsection. `(5) No cause of action may be brought in any court or administrative agency against any person on account of any action which the person has taken in good faith to implement a defense authorized under this section or otherwise to restrict or prevent the transmission of, or access to, a communication specified in this section. The preceding sentence shall not apply where the good faith defenses under subsection (c)(2) apply. `(6) No State or local government may impose any liability in connection with a violation described in subsection (a)(2), (b)(1)(B), (b)(2)(B) that is inconsistent with the treatment of those violations under this section provided, however, that nothing herein shall preclude any State or local government from enacting and enforcing complementary oversight, liability, and regulatory systems, procedures, and requirements, so long as such systems, procedures, and requirements govern only intrastate services and do not result in the imposition of inconsistent obligations on the provision of interstate services. `(e) Knowingly Defined: For purposes of subsections (a) and (b), the term `knowingly' means an intentional act with actual knowledge of the specific content of the communication specified in this section to another person.' From sage-members-owner Thu Oct 12 10:28:02 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA01849; Thu, 12 Oct 95 10:28:02 PDT Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA01840; Thu, 12 Oct 95 10:28:00 PDT Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phibes.dartmouth.edu (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA13139 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:27:02 -0400 Message-Id: <199510121727.NAA13139@phibes.dartmouth.edu> To: sage-members@usenix.ORG Subject: SAGE BOD candidates are off and running! Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:27:02 -0500 From: Pat Wilson Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk I am pleased to announce the following candidates for the 1995 SAGE Board of Directors: Jim Campbell, Enterprise Systems Management Barb Dijker, Labyrinth Compter Services Paul Evans, Synopsis Tim Gassaway, Texas Instruments Peter Gray, Univ. of Wollongong Helen Harrison, SAS Kevin Kelleher, cisco Systems Jeff Tyler, Pencom System Administration SAGE members will elect 4 Directors for the 1996-1998 term (ballots should arrive in postal mail in the middle of November). Please view the candidates' pages on the SAGE web (note: all the links aren't yet live, but should be soon), and use sage-nominees@usenix.org to discuss issues and questions with the candidates. Remember - these folks will be representing SAGE (a 2500-member organization) to the outside world - give your votes thought. Above all, VOTE! Pat Wilson Chair, SAGE Nominating Committee paw@usenix.org From sage-members-owner Fri Oct 13 10:03:33 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA14181; Fri, 13 Oct 95 10:03:33 PDT Received: from hplms26.hpl.hp.com ([15.255.168.31]) by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA13772; Fri, 13 Oct 95 09:57:29 PDT Received: from hplabsz.hpl.hp.com by hplms26.hpl.hp.com with ESMTP ($Revision: 1.36.108.11 $/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1S) id AA246103292; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:54:53 -0700 Received: by hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1) id AA048873293; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:54:54 -0700 From: "Laura de Leon" Message-Id: <9510130954.ZM4884@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:54:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.0.0 15dec93) To: rem-conf@es.net, sage-members@usenix.ORG Subject: BayLISA: Chuck McMannis on Java and Web Security Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk The BayLISA group meets monthly to discuss topics of interest to systems and network administrators. The meetings are free and open to the public. BayLISA holds monthly meetings on the third Thursday of each month at 7:30 PM PST. We meet at Synopsys Building C in Mountain View, California off Highway 237 at Middlefield. The meetings are also broadcast via MBONE. Schedule -------- October 19: Chuck McMannis, Sun, on Java and Web Security Also: Come early to meet the candidates for the BayLISA board (It isn't too late to run!) November 16: Berry Kerchival, Xerox PARC, on ATM Also: Come early for the annual board election and membership meeting December 21: Holiday meeting-- something out of the ordinary (Schedule subject to revision) For further information on BayLISA, check out our web site: http://www.baylisa.org/ To get further information on the meeting location, you can also ftp it from ftp.baylisa.org:/BayLISA/location or you can query the BayLISA mail server by cutting and pasting the following line to your shell: echo "index baylisa" | mail majordomo@baylisa.org BayLISA makes video tapes of the meetings available to members. For more information on available videos, please send email to: video@baylisa.org For any other information, please send email to: info@baylisa.org From sage-members-owner Fri Nov 10 13:47:31 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA27233; Fri, 10 Nov 95 13:47:31 PST Received: from hplms26.hpl.hp.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA27226; Fri, 10 Nov 95 13:47:28 PST Received: from hplabsz.hpl.hp.com by hplms26.hpl.hp.com with ESMTP ($Revision: 1.36.108.11 $/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1S) id AA247889974; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:46:15 -0800 Received: by hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (1.37.109.15/15.5+ECS 3.3+HPL1.1) id AA188599977; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:46:18 -0800 From: "Laura de Leon" Message-Id: <9511101346.ZM18857@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:46:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.0.0 15dec93) To: baylisa@baylisa.org, rem-conf@es.net, sage-members@usenix.ORG Subject: BayLISA: Berry Kercheval on ATM Cc: deleon@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk The BayLISA group meets monthly to discuss topics of interest to systems and network administrators. The meetings are free and open to the public. BayLISA holds monthly meetings on the third Thursday of each month at 7:30 PM PST. We meet at Synopsys Building C in Mountain View, California off Highway 237 at Middlefield. The meetings are also broadcast via MBONE. Schedule -------- November 16: Berry Kercheval, Xerox PARC, on ATM What is ATM? How does it work? Is it living up to its promise? Berry Kercheval will clear up the mysteries around ATM. Also: Come early for the annual board election and membership meeting December 21: Holiday meeting-- something out of the ordinary (Schedule subject to revision) For further information on BayLISA, check out our web site: http://www.baylisa.org/ To get further information on the meeting location, you can also ftp it from ftp.baylisa.org:/BayLISA/location or you can query the BayLISA mail server by cutting and pasting the following line to your shell: echo "index baylisa" | mail majordomo@baylisa.org BayLISA makes video tapes of the meetings available to members. For more information on available videos, please send email to: video@baylisa.org For any other information, please send email to: info@baylisa.org If you have any questions, please contact me or the info alias listed above. From sage-members-owner Wed Nov 15 16:22:45 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA19281; Wed, 15 Nov 95 16:22:45 PST Received: from rigel.dartmouth.edu by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA19274; Wed, 15 Nov 95 16:22:42 PST Received: (from paw@localhost) by rigel.dartmouth.edu (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA14593 for sage-members@usenix.org; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 19:21:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 19:21:25 -0500 From: Pat Wilson Message-Id: <199511160021.TAA14593@rigel.dartmouth.edu> To: sage-members@usenix.ORG Subject: SAGE Board Elections! VOTE! Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk Hey, Members! Ballots for the SAGE Board Of Directors elections are in the mail (I got mine today). *Please* read the candidate statements, visit the web pages [URL http://www.sage.usenix.org/sage/hypertext/board_candidates_95.html] and VOTE! If you have specific questions you'd like to ask the candidates, use the sage-nominees mailing list (sage-nominees@usenix.org). We're often lucky to get 25% of the members casting ballots, so your vote certainly makes a difference. VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE! Pat Wilson paw@dartmouth.edu From sage-members-owner Fri Dec 15 08:13:19 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA28465; Fri, 15 Dec 95 08:13:19 PST Received: from MIT.EDU (SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU) by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA28458; Fri, 15 Dec 95 08:13:17 PST Received: from PEMAQUID.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA17533; Fri, 15 Dec 95 11:11:57 EST Received: by pemaquid.MIT.EDU (931110.SGI/4.7) id AA16835; Fri, 15 Dec 95 11:12:00 -0500 Message-Id: <9512151612.AA16835@pemaquid.MIT.EDU> To: sage-members@usenix.ORG Subject: Invited Talks for LISA10 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 11:12:00 EST From: Kim Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi All, Rik Farrow and I are the Invited Talk coordinators for the next LISA conference. In case you're wondering, the Invited Talk track is the one that runs opposite the paper presentations. Rik and I are in the process of identifying topics and speakers for the conference. If there's something you've always wanted to hear about, but haven't, please drop us a line to let us know. Likewise, if you're aware of a particular speaker that does a great job presenting topics of interest to sys admins, tell us about him/her. Don't wait, fire off your ideas now! We can be reached at itlisa@usenix.org From sage-members-owner Fri Dec 15 13:49:58 1995 Received: by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA03399; Fri, 15 Dec 95 13:49:58 PST Received: from spsgate.sps.mot.com by usenix.ORG (4.1/1.29-emg890317) id AA03368; Fri, 15 Dec 95 13:49:51 PST Received: from mogate (mogate.sps.mot.com) by spsgate.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email 2.1 10/25/93) id AA21188 for sage-members@usenix.org; Fri, 15 Dec 95 14:48:32 MST Received: from motsps by mogate (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.0) id AA28877; Fri, 15 Dec 95 14:48:29 MST Received: from apache.sps.mot.com (oakhill-csic.sps.mot.com) by motsps (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.1) id AA16713 for sage-members@usenix.org; Fri, 15 Dec 95 14:48:28 MST Received: from pueblo.sps.mot.com by apache.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25111; Fri, 15 Dec 95 15:44:17 CST From: robo@oakhill-csic.sps.mot.com (Robert Borowicz-System_Admin) Message-Id: <9512152144.AA25111@apache.sps.mot.com> Subject: Re: Invited Talks for LISA10 To: sage-members@usenix.ORG Date: Fri, 15 Dec 95 15:45:50 CST Cc: merlyn@stonehenge.com, itlisa@usenix.ORG In-Reply-To: <9512151612.AA16835@pemaquid.MIT.EDU>; from "Kim" at Dec 15, 95 11:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: sage-members-owner@usenix.ORG Precedence: bulk > All, Sorry, don't remember if I sent this or not... Had a fire to put out in mid email-composure. Sorry if this is a duplicate. > > Hi All, > > Rik Farrow and I are the Invited Talk coordinators for the > next LISA conference. In case you're wondering, the Invited Talk track > is the one that runs opposite the paper presentations. > > Rik and I are in the process of identifying topics and > speakers for the conference. If there's something you've always wanted > to hear about, but haven't, please drop us a line to let us > know. Likewise, if you're aware of a particular speaker that does a > great job presenting topics of interest to sys admins, tell us about > him/her. > > Don't wait, fire off your ideas now! We can be reached > at itlisa@usenix.org > The events that happened to Randal Schwartz this year need to be presented to the SysAdmin community. Too many of my Peers here at Moto feel he "got what he deserved". Being familiar with the situation I feel differently. What do you all think? Is this fitting of an Invited Talk? He also should be given a chance to do the Perl session for a change... > What say you Randal? You up for this? By the way if you want to come up to speed on the issues there is a web page assembled by the community; http://www.usa1.com/fors Regards | Robert K. Borowicz | Phone: (512) 891-4642 | | Motorola Corp. CSIC Divsionn | Pager: (800) 628-1409 | | 6501 William Cannon West | Fax : (512) 891-4441 | | Austin, Texas USA 78735-8598 | Email: f10168@email.mot.com |